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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	start without debugging using avrisp2 Feb 9^th, 2014 at 12:46pm	Print Post
	I want to use the avrisp programmer so that I can program standalone chips like the ATtiny84 using the ISP interface. I am experimenting with an arduino uno first to reduce the risks possibly associated with using a core for the ATtiny85. If I use ctrl + shift + p and select the .elf file all works OK. (here is how to find the .elf files http://www.visualmicro.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1389194085/0#5 I cant however get the device programmed using the start without debugging shortcut. I have : Tools - Visual Micro - Programmers - avrisp. Tools - Options - Visual Micro - General - programmers (it shows Last programmer avrisp) so I select - True. Also in alt + f7 - Tool , I select Avrisp. Anybody any ideas please?
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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #1 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	Hi, I am not sure if I understand. For now please forget everything you know about Atmel Studio,.elf files and ignore tools>options. Just do this which is Arduino compatible ... 1) Click "Tools>Visual Micro>Programmers" and select your programmer (avrisp mkII) 2) Click "Tools>Visual Micro>Upload using Programmer" 3) Now use any of the normal Atmel Studio start commands (with or without debugging) to upload using avrisp instead of serial. Sorry if I have missed the point. Is this what you wanted to do? I will review the wiki which I know needs improving. Thanks
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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #2 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	Done that and I get this: Compiling 'Blink' for 'Arduino Uno' Build folder: file:///C:/Users/Jim/AppData/Local/VMicro/Arduino/Builds/Blink/uno Binary sketch size: 1084 bytes (used 3% of a 32256 byte maximum) (1.26 secs) Uploading to I/O board using 'avrispmkii' avrdude: usbdev_open(): did not find any USB device "usb" I read on this site info on loading usb drivers but I did see in Device manager the USB listed but now its disappeared and only the jungo is present. seems odd that the VS programmer works OK.
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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #3 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	Atmel changed the usb drivers to Jungo some time ago and they are no longer compatible with the Arduino Ide. Visual Micro uses the tools supplied with the Arduino Ide so you need to switch the driver back to the one that came with the installation disk of the mkisp mkII. If you have problems or can't find the install disk there is a page here that explains how to switch the usb driver. Don't shoot the messenger, I am just telling you how it is (not my fault)� ps: I am trying to find out from Atmel how to use their atprogram.exe to upload instead of the Arduino tool chain. I think this would be a better solution for advanced users of Atmel Studio. Not sure if it is possible my knowledge is weak in this area. If you have any ideas then they will be appreciated
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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #4 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 5:45pm	Print Post
	OK I done that and uploading from "Start without debugging" works. I now remember why I didnt go through that process of changing the driver, which I have tried in the past, because now I cant access the avrisp through AV studio directly ie without Visual Studio. Is it possible to get both options without reloading the drivers each time.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #5 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 6:38pm	Print Post
	Please see the ps in my previous comments. If we can find the atpromgram.exe commands to upload with avrisp mkII then we can extend the config to support it. I don't think you would need a new release of Visual Micro for that. Another thing that might be useful is that hopefully the next release will publish the .elf/hex etc to the standard Atmel build folder.
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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #6 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 10:37pm	Print Post
	As I said its possible to use AV programmer with jungo to upload to arduino using ISP and .elf files so maybe its possible to add some code to the post build stage, alt + f7 I have been experimenting with atprogram.exe but have not got far yet, see: http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=1134307&highli... Have you tried this route?


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #7 - Feb 10^th, 2014 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	No I have not tried it yet but I am waiting for some information from Atmel to save hunting for it. It is quite easy to extend the 1.5.x programmer.txt in arduinoide/hardware/arduino/avr to include a different programmer like atprogram.exe. Hopefully this will be possible with the info.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #8 - Feb 19^th, 2014 at 5:08pm	Print Post
	Jungo compatible upload will be in the next release due over the next week or two Thanks to some help from the team at Atmel!
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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #9 - Feb 19^th, 2014 at 5:18pm	Print Post
	Well done, I look forward to trying it.


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #10 - Mar 6^th, 2014 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	To get this to work now should I now install: Arduino 1.5.6-r2 Visual Micro (1403.03 RC) and re-install the jungo drivers.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #11 - Mar 6^th, 2014 at 6:57pm	Print Post
	Hi, 1403.03 RC + any Arduino 1.5.x version + Jungo drivers


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #12 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	I have: 1403.03 RC + Arduino 1.5.6-r2 version + Jungo drivers and I cant get anything to work. I just downloaded Visual Micro (1403.08) but still the same as follows: When VStudio starts I get the message: VisualMicro Failed to create UI command items. The parameter incorrect (exception from HRESULT :0x80070057(E_INVALIDARG)) At the end of the verbose output I get: Binary sketch size: 1116 bytes (used 3% of a 32256 byte maximum) (2.70 secs) Minimum Memory Usage: 11 bytes (1% of a 2048 byte maximum) Uploading to I/O board using 'Atmel Studio AVRISP MkII (ISP)' C:\Program Files\Atmel\Atmel Studio 6.1\atbackend\atprogram -d atmega328p -v -t avrispmk2 -i ISP program -c -f "C:\Users\Jim\AppData\Local\VMicro\Arduino\Builds\Blink\uno\Blink.hex" Could not find tool. Upload failed. Did you select the correct upload method for this board? Error during upload using programmer [DEBUG] Starting execution of "program" [DEBUG] Starting process 'C:\Program Files\Atmel\Atmel Studio 6.1\atbackend\atbackend.exe' [DEBUG] Connecting to TCP:127.0.0.1:49748 [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... I have tried re-installing jungo and even going back to the earlier USB drivers but I cannot connect to anything anymore, not even an UNO (I have a second UNO with the bootloader still intact) directly through the USB even from the arduinoe interface not VS. In Tools - Programmers I have tried both the versions of avrisp. I have tried ctrl shift p and set the avrisp but when I hit apply nothing happens for a while and then I get the message:An ongoing operation is taking longer than expected Details tool-> connect And when I close it I get this message: Severity: ERROR ComponentId: 20100 StatusCode: 1 ModuleName: TCF (TCF command: Tool:connect failed.) USB driver initialization failed: Internal system error (0x20000007). I can see the drivers in System Manager and in View - Atmel Tools I see avrisp as connected. Not sure where to go from here.
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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #13 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 12:44pm	Print Post
	Quote: When VStudio starts I get the message: VisualMicro Failed to create UI command items. The parameter incorrect (exception from HRESULT :0x80070057(E_INVALIDARG)) This sounds like a custom library is causing a problem that Visual Micro should ignore or handle better. You might find that some libraries are missing from the "project>add/import sketch library>user" menu. Please switch on "tools>options>visual micro>user interface>trace" and then re-start the ide. please email the trace output that appears after the ide re-starts. We might have to make a new beta and extend the trace messages if they do not clearly show the problem. This can be done quickly. + Please confirm that you see the list of boards in the tool bar? Quote: C:\Program Files\Atmel\Atmel Studio 6.1\atbackend\atprogram -d atmega328p -v -t avrispmk2 -i ISP program -c -f "C:\Users\Jim\AppData\Local\VMicro\Arduino\Builds\Blink\uno\Blink.hex" Could not find tool. Upload failed. Did you select the correct upload method for this board? Error during upload using programmer [DEBUG] Starting execution of "program" [DEBUG] Starting process 'C:\Program Files\Atmel\Atmel Studio 6.1\atbackend\atbackend.exe' [DEBUG] Connecting to TCP:127.0.0.1:49748 [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... [INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying... I have tried re-installing jungo and even going back to the earlier USB drivers but I cannot connect to anything anymore, not even the UNO directly through the USB. I think this is a usb issue or Atmel Studio problem because we can see that Visual Micro has invoked the Atmel version of the programmer and that it then failed with an error communicating with another bit of Atmel software. Code C:\Program Files\Atmel\Atmel Studio 6.1\atbackend\atprogram -d atmega328p -v -t avrispmk2 -i ISP program -c -f "C:\Users\Jim\AppData\Local\VMicro\Arduino\Builds\Blink\uno\Blink.hex" I am sorry to not have a solution at hand. Maybe you can post this single issue on the atmel support site? Q: What would cause this message "[INFO] Could not find tool. Retrying..." Quote: In Tools - Programmers I have tried both the versions of avrisp. I have tried ctrl shift p and set the avrisp but when I hit apply nothing happens for a while and then I get the message:An ongoing operation is taking longer than expected Details tool-> connect And when I close it I get this message: Severity: ERROR ComponentId: 20100 StatusCode: 1 ModuleName: TCF (TCF command: Tool:connect failed.) You would expect to see errors like this for a usb device that does not have the correct driver. If you were trying to use the Arduino version of avrisp mkII then you would see this error and it would be correct. As you know it is either atmel drivers or arduino drivers so one tool will always produce an error. We do not use the ctrl+shift+p or the standard atmel screens for upload. You simply selected the programmer from tools>visual micro>programmers and then click "upload using programmer". Then hit F5 to upload using the selected programmer as you have done in your first example above. Quote: not even the UNO directly through the USB You should still see the Uno in the Serial ports list? If not then something out of the ordinary has happened to your pc. The Atmel jungo drivers do not affect the standard Arduino usb/uno drivers. After you have uploaded to an Arduino using a programmer you will no longer be able to upload using usb unless you burn a new bootloader. This is how Arduino works and is not within the control of Visual Micro. However if programmer upload has failed ALWAYS, then I do not understand how your Arduino Uno would not allow usb upload. Did you upload using avrisp programmer before switching to the Atmel Jungo drivers, then this would explain why this happens? If your Uno is no longer listed as a COM port then I would suggest re-starting your pc. Hope to hear more.


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #14 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 1:30pm	Print Post
	Having re-started the ide with trace, in the "Micro system trace" output window I get: CreateCommandBarItemsPerm Begin AddinVer=1.1403.03 Permanent Items Setup Requested - Exiting setup because some controls already exist CreateCommandBarItemsPerm End Create UI command items Begin CreateCommandBarItems Begin AddinVer=1.1403.03 Get Bar Tools Create Bar Tools>Arduino Adding Tools>Ports Adding Tools>Other Ports Adding UI Menu-Board-Items Adding UI Menu-SerialPort-Items Adding Creating project menu libraries for platform Adding ToolBar-Lib-Items Unable to create UI command items The parameter is incorrect. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070057 (E_INVALIDARG)) In the Tools-Options-VB it says it places a file in a sub directory of the VB options.dll but I cant see where that is. I went back to the Arduino install and and remmembered that I had un-checked the install USB drivers, assuming I would now be using jungo. So I re-installed arduino and the USB driver and now the arduino interface works but the VS still does not.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #15 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	Quote: Adding ToolBar-Lib-Items Unable to create UI command items The parameter is incorrect. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070057 (E_INVALIDARG)) 1) At first glance, this does look like a library causing some confusion with the latest beta. I guess you have a "sketchbook folder\libraries folder" with a few custom libraries installed? 2) Do you see any libraries listed on project>add/import sketch library>user? Quote: In the Tools-Options-VB it says it places a file in a sub directory of the VB options.dll but I cant see where that is. Sorry I do not understand any of this? Please explain more. Quote: I went back to the Arduino install and and remmembered that I had un-checked the install USB drivers, assuming I would now be using jungo. So I re-installed arduino and the USB driver and now the arduino interface works but the VS still does not. Difficult to understand what does not work from this report. Can you see the Uno listed under tools>visual micro>serial monitor? Is it ticked? Did you un-check tools>visual micro>upload using programmer"? Thanks


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #16 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	Quick reply on the Quote: I went back to the Arduino install and and remembered that I had un-checked the install USB drivers, assuming I would now be using jungo. So I re-installed arduino and the USB driver and now the arduino interface works but the VS still does not. I am talking about the Arduino 1.5.6-r2 version re-installation and dialogue. When I then ran the Arduino interface not the Visual Studio Visual Micro I was able to connect with the UNO (another one which has a boot loader) using the USB.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #17 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	Thanks, so you proven arduino usb is working with a board that has a bootloader. So if you untick "upload using programmer" in Visual Micro and select the serial port then press F5 what happens?


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #18 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 2:15pm	Print Post
	Quote: In the Tools-Options-VB it says it places a file in a sub directory of the VB options.dll but I cant see where that is. When I go to Tools - Option - VB - User Interface and select Trace there is a note that "the trace file can be found in a sub folder below the location of the visual micro addin dll", but I cant find that.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #19 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	A Quote: In the Tools-Options-VB it says it places a file in a sub directory of the VB options.dll but I cant see where that is. When I go to Tools - Option - VB - User Interface and select Trace there is a note that "the trace file can be found in a sub folder below the location of the visual micro addin dll", but I cant find that. Okay some confusion here You mean "tools>options>visual micro" not "tools>options>VB" The tip for the user interface trace might be out of date. The trace appears in the output window after you re-start Visual Micro (VM). If you run as administrator then it will also create the file report of the trace with the same info. We do not need the trace any more you have already reported what is says above. I then asked two questions of which I am still awaiting answers... 1) I guess you have a "sketchbook folder\libraries folder" with a few custom libraries installed? 2) Do you see any libraries listed on project>add/import sketch library>user? B As concerns uploading I still need answers to these two questions please Can you see the Uno listed under tools>visual micro>serial monitor? Is it ticked? 1) Did you un-check tools>visual micro>upload using programmer"? 2) If you untick "upload using programmer" in Visual Micro and also select the serial port from "tools>visual micro>serial monitor" then press F5 what happens? Thanks


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #20 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	If I do that without loading the jungo drivers, In the Serial Port window beside Arduino 1.5x Uno the port is set to 4 but according to device manager the port is actually 5 and I cant see how to change it. At the end o build I get: Uploading to I/O board using 'COM4' Flushing the serial port The port 'COM4' does not exist. I will experiment with the jungo drivers later, I have to go out now.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #21 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 2:30pm	Print Post
	Ok thanks. That suggests windows is confused about the usb port. Did you power off then re-start your pc after all the usb installs. Sometimes windows get confused? note: Visual Micro uses .net to get the serial ports list where as arduino uses java. This is why Visual Micro can be confused when Arduino is not but it happens very rarely. You would think Microsoft would get it right more often than Java!


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #22 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 4:42pm	Print Post
	OK, still using the Arduino drivers, Device manager says, Ports (com & lpt) - Arduino Uno (com 5) Re-powered my PC and the Arduino environment reports UNO on com5 and I can upload to it. Going to V Studio and V Micro (sorry I confused the V etc) it still reports on com4. In V Studio - Tools - V Micro - the other serial poers is disabled so I cant change to com5. Just going to get information for your other questions.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #23 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	Ok, it was me being thick. I should have known you meant Vm and not Vb� What's happening here is that Visual Micro is not getting any com ports from windows. You are seeing com4 simply because Visual Micro remembers the last port you had set and shows it as a reminder. Sometimes it is simply that people have forgotten to plug the board in so we do not really want to clear the selected port. I will have to look at why you see no ports. Are you able to switch off "Tools>Options>Vm>Communications>Show friendly port list" and "Tools>Options>Vm>Communications>Show friendly port menus"? Then re-start the ide. Any difference? If you drop down the ports list or use the menu do you see any ports? Thanks ps: which version of windows are you using, sorry if you have already said?
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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #24 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:03pm	Print Post
	1) I guess you have a "sketchbook folder\libraries folder" with a few custom libraries installed? C:\Users\Jim\Documents\Arduino\libraries is empty C:\Users\Jim\Documents\Arduino\hardware had a Tiny folder containing the cores for ATtiny devices. I removed the Tiny folder because it relates to arduino 1.0.5 anyway. This made no difference. 2) Do you see any libraries listed on project>add/import sketch library>user? I see: User which is disabled blanked. Core which has a list starting with EEPROM


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #25 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	Thanks, I will add more trace message but let's sort the ports out first this might resolve everything. Please see my prev post and also confirm windows version. Thanks


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #26 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	As concerns uploading I still need answers to these two questions please Can you see the Uno listed under tools>visual micro>serial monitor? Is it ticked? 1) Did you un-check tools>visual micro>upload using programmer"? Yes 2) If you untick "upload using programmer" in Visual Micro and also select the serial port from "tools>visual micro>serial monitor" then press F5 what happens? Serial monitor is still trying to use com4 instead of com5


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #27 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:13pm	Print Post
	Yes it will attempt to use the last selected port until you change it and will wait some time hoping you connect a board. The problem is that you have no ports listed in Visual Micro, it just shows the last used port which no longer exists Q Are you able to switch off "Tools>Options>Vm>Communications>Show friendly port list" and also "Tools>Options>Vm>Communications>Show friendly port menus"? Then re-start the ide. Any difference? If you drop down the ports list or use the menu do you see any ports? Thanks


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #28 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:16pm	Print Post
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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #29 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:25pm	Print Post
	"Tools>Options>Vm>Communications>Show friendly port list" and also "Tools>Options>Vm>Communications>Show friendly port menus"? Then re-start the ide. In the Tools Vm, other serial ports is disabled. In the drop down list I can select COM5 but I get a message"Still Loading, wait a second"


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #30 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	I am still not using the jungo drivers, should I try them?


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #31 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 5:31pm	Print Post
	Quote: I am still not using the jungo drivers, should I try them? Jungo has no effect on serial ports so feel free. They have worked well for my testing on various machines. Easy to put avrisp drivers back if you have issues. However I would open a new thread with any problems because it's unconnected to serial and this thread has got huge
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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #32 - Mar 10^th, 2014 at 11:02pm	Print Post
	Please also switch off "tools>options>vm>communications>network discovery" this will give you the old style ports list. If the port list is wrong then I will give you a link to a simple c# app that shows what windows things is the current port list. Thanks
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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #33 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 9:07am	Print Post
	Tim@Visual Micro wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 11:02pm: Please also switch off "tools>options>vm>communications>network discovery" this will give you the old style ports list. Bingo, in VM I can now connect to the bootloadable Arduino through the USB using the Arduino LLC driver. I can also use avrisp on my other Arduino if I select the first avrisp, but not the second, in the Tools-VM-Programmers and using the libusb-win32 driver. jungo drivers dont work on either avrisp� in the Tools-VM-Programmers.
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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #34 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	Great. Okay I want to explain some things about what has been happening but first I want to be clear about some thing which you might already have realised. Quote: Visual Micro does not install or alter any usb drivers it just uses whatever Arduino or Atmel or the user has installed 1) The COM problems you encountered were due to the fact that your windows 7 wmi database is slightly corrupted. I have read on the web that this sometimes happens and there are, for windows 7, some simply fixes. I haven't tried any fixes because I do not have the problem. You can see the type of code that Visual Micro uses to get serial port names using this microsoft tool: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8572 For example I just used the tool to produce this Code strComputer = "." Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & "\root\CIMV2") Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery( _ "SELECT * FROM Win32_SerialPort",,48) For Each objItem in colItems Wscript.Echo "-----------------------------------" Wscript.Echo "Win32_SerialPort instance" Wscript.Echo "-----------------------------------" Wscript.Echo "Description: " & objItem.Description Next Actually Visual Micro uses a C# equivalent with the ManagementObjectSearcher 2) To fix the wmi on windows7 I have found this untested suggestion on the web Code winmgmt /standalonehost winmgmt /resetrepository 3) Libusb-win32 should work in Visual Micro if you have ticked the standard AVRISP mkII 4) Jungo should work in Visual Micro if you have ticked Atmel AVRISP mkII 5) In both cases 3) and 4) with tools>options>visual micro>compiler>verbose you will see the command line that Visual Micro us running to invoke the tools that control the programmers. So you will see that Visual Micro does not know the usb driver it just runs the appropriate tool.exe for the selected programmer. I think this means that you have some other issues on your pc. An easy test, with Jungo install, is to see if you can use the standard atmel studio tools>device programming dialog to upload your .elf. I expect you should see the same error that Visual Micro encounters. If not then we I can ask Atmel about it but please open a new thread purely for Jungo/Atmel programmers Again to solve the win32 libusb error also please open a new thread because it is standard stuff and is generally working okay Both of these last issues might still be related to a corrupted wmi database but that is a wild guess. I hope this helps


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Trek19 Junior Member Offline Posts: 95 Location: UK Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #35 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 1:41pm	Print Post
	OK, I will have to spend a bit of time understanding this. Sorry to have taken so much of your time on something which is probably on my computer.


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Tim@Visual Micro Administrator Offline Posts: 12191 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: start without debugging using avrisp2 Reply #36 - Mar 11^th, 2014 at 1:56pm	Print Post
	No problem. Other users will just think that Visual Micro doesn't work so it was very useful that you also invested this time in helping to understand the cause of this issue. We have already altered the new help system (due shortly) to include some helpful tips as a result of your post and will continue to consider how we can auto-detect and warn users if this happens. It's a difficult one and I need to go back through the forum logs because I suspect someone else has encountered the issue but I didn't have the detailed answers to determine the cause! So thanks


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