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Mar 3rd, 2014 at 3:34am
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Hi all,

I've been using the VM for a week or so now, it's a lifesaver on this project...thanks Tim!

I bumped into something today that is some kind of user error I'm sure.  

Up until today, I would get exactly the same number of compiled bytes in Visual Micro as I did with the Arduino tool.  I am not using VM to upload, but using Arduino, so I've seen this number every time and used it as a means of verifying the Arduino compile.

Today, however, I tried running the Visual Micro debugger.  I wasn't really going to use it, just curious about it.  I got a number of errors, no big deal.  If/when I need it, I'll get to it.

However, now when I compile, VM reports less bytes compiled than Arduino.  

For example, VM reports: 
Binary sketch size: 221996 bytes (used 86% of a 258048 byte maximum) (7.06 secs)
and Arduino reports:
Binary sketch size: 222,432 bytes (of a 258,048 byte maximum)

With a few changes to the code, VM reports:
Binary sketch size: 231462 bytes (used 90% of a 258048 byte maximum) (8.88 secs)
and Arudino reports:
Binary sketch size: 231,898 bytes (of a 258,048 byte maximum)

So the difference is 436 bytes every time.  

I'm assuming there is some setting in VM that got set when I tried the debugger that is now making them different. 

I did have to go in and turn the debugger off in the options settings, so I figure there is some other setting that got changed perhaps?  I'd like to get back to defaults (I've tried reset tool chain and re-opening).

Any ideas what I did and how to get it back?

Thanks,
Matt





  
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Re: Visual Micro compile now smaller than standard Arduino after trying a debug.
Reply #1 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 4:05am
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Hi matt,

Thanks for the message.

What are you clicking to perform the build? Start without debug, just build or start with debug?

If you click Build>Clean does that make a difference to the size?

If not then please switch on tools>options>visual micro>compiler>verbose. click build clean then compile.

Do those things make a difference?

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Reply #2 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 4:37am
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Hi Tim,

I've just been building with "Build" and then the project (or build-> solution, same results).   

I did a build->clean just now, then rebuilt at the project level.  The size is now the same as Arduino., so thanks!

I'll keep this in mind if I bump into it again.  Any idea what might have happened?

Thanks,
Matt

  
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Reply #3 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 4:44am
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Great thanks for the update. Which board are you using?
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An APM 2.5
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 5:03am
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Oh yes sorry forgot. I would say that was the libs cached but some pre-processors had changed.  The apm project heavily uses pre-processor defines.

There are project properties that allow you to decide what level of re-compile happens when pre-processors change but build clean can be the easiest sometimes.

I don't think you will get the debug stuff working with apm, it's changed too much and needs an overhaul + the apm code does everything different and strips away half of the arduino stuff. 

I am not even sure if softwareSerial will work in apm. If you see what object is being used for serial in the apm code that would be a useful start to adding support.

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Reply #6 - Mar 3rd, 2014 at 6:23am
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Thanks Tim.  I doubt I'll try to debug again with the APM unless this project really, really needs it.  It'll take more time relying on printf statements (geez, last time I did that was 86?), but the project is just a migration of some custom code from the last APM version of DIY code that they had to the new one.  We'll see though...

Thanks again for all your help,
Matt
  
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