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Visual micro baud rate
Aug 25th, 2015 at 3:41pm
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Debugging

I have enabled debugging but it does not work

Please keep in mind that the debugging system uses the serial port and expects a baud rate as set in Visual Micro. If your sketch code uses the serial port as well, then you must use the same baud rate as Visual Micro (in your Serial.begin() function call) or adjust Visual Micro's baud rate to yours.

Visual Micro's default baud rate is 115.200, you can change the baud rate in the Project Properties (Local Speed and Remote Speed settings).

As an alternative, you can use separate serial ports for debugging and other communications (Read more)


Brilliant! How? There is no setting called 'local speed' in 'project properties' that I can find.


  
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Reply #1 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 3:51pm
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Hi,

The documentation is the best place to look.

This document explains the debug speed, port, pin options and also contains a link to the project properties documentation.

Debugging with Different Ports, Pins and Speeds
Documentation Index
Project Properties

You haven't said which Ide you are using but if it is VS normally you click the project and press F4. Don't be confused with the "Property Pages". The "Project Properties" is a tool window.
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Reply #2 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:03pm
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Tim@Visual Micro wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 3:51pm:
Hi,

The documentation is the best place to look.

This document explains the debug speed, port, pin options and also contains a link to the project properties documentation.

Debugging with Different Ports, Pins and Speeds
Documentation Index
Project Properties

You haven't said which Ide you are using but if it is VS normally you click the project and press F4. Don't be confused with the "Property Pages". The "Properties Window" is a tool window.

Look thanks for the reply but I have seen that page and it is of no help either.

Attached is a screen shot of the window that pops up when open up the properties on my arduino project.

I am after highly specific instructions on where to find all these settings the pages mention. Because as far as I can see they just don't exist in the 'project properties'

Are they not available unless you purchase a license key?

  

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Reply #3 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:08pm
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If you look at the title of your screen shot it says "Property Pages" and I specifically noted that would be the wrong window (although maybe not very clearly). 

Property pages is a dialog window  and not what you want. Tool windows like "Project properties" are windows that can be docked and tabbed like the solution explorer and output windows.

Close the dialog you have on the screen. Please submit a screen shot of your ide with the project open (and selected in the solution explorer).

Then I will tell you what to click



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Reply #4 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:20pm
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There is also an error in the documentation that I just noticed!

The short cut key ALT+ENTER is for Atmel Studio

For Visual Studio it is F4

But there should also be a "View>Properties Window" menu item available when the project is selected

Sorry if it confused.

  
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Reply #5 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 11:53pm
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Tim@Visual Micro wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:20pm:
There is also an error in the documentation that I just noticed!

The short cut key ALT+ENTER is for Atmel Studio

For Visual Studio it is F4

But there should also be a "View>Properties Window" menu item available when the project is selected

Sorry if it confused.


Assuming you are one of the Visual Micro developers....


OK well I have been through a bit of this at my last IT job at Tabcorp in Victoria, Australia. I was given the job of writing a user manual for the testers explaining how to install the software on a new Easybet terminal by ghosting from another hard disk.

I made all the same mistakes about the amount of knowledge I already had with this sort of process. My first attempts were basically unusable by the testers.

I had to place myself in the position of a brand new employee in the testing department who had no knowledge of ghosting a hard disk.

In the end the document was fully detailed step by step instructions with screen shots at nearly every step.

It was a laborious process to write the manual but in the end, if it is about excellence rather than duty to be endured, then it is worth while creating a high quality user manual.

So you have collectively assumed that I know, as a new user, precisely what you mean by 'project => properties' (i.e. literally through the menu structure) when apparently that is not the case.

So my suggestion is to add the missing details to your website help pages assuming that your reader perhaps had not even used Visual Studio before.

Here is the screen shot you asked for:
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 11:58pm
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P.S. I had been using Visual Studio 6.0 from 15 years ago because it was good enough for what I was doing.

I have only just upgraded to VS 2010 so that I can use Visual Micro and the better VS editor rather than the native Arduino IDE.

But there are a number of differences in the 2010 version UI that I am not entirely familiar with as yet.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 6:08am
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Press f4
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 7:34am
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Tim@Visual Micro wrote on Aug 26th, 2015 at 6:08am:
Press f4

F4 does not do anything.

I looked through the whole menu structure and it is not listed against any item as a short cut in Visual Studio 2010.

Are you sure F4 is not specific to VS 2013 or VS 2015?
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 7:50am
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OK I stumbled upon the right button - it is the second one after the combo box containing "typdef unit16".

I.E. Popup hint "Properties Windows" And the short cut in VS 2010 is ALT + ENTER, not F4.

A suitable screen shot with a red circle around that button, on those help pages of yours, would make it a great deal easier for the next person that runs into this problem.

  
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Reply #10 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 10:46am
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Do you think something like this will help? ...

Select your project in the Solution Explorer window (To show the Solution Explorer press [Ctrl+Alt+L]):

Highlight the project (not the solution!)

Project Selected - Correct 



Choose "View > Properties Window" or press [Alt+Enter]

The Project Properties Window opens:

Project Properties Window

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Reply #11 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 10:52am
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Reply #12 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 10:55am
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Hi,

Before we get into a new question (which I have moved to a new thread) would please answer my previous question concerning the help text that should be in the documentation concerning the properties window?

Do you feel my last post clarifies the situation and would have prevented so much time being wasted trying to find the properties window?
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 11:14am
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I have been looking here: http://www.visualmicro.com/page/Debugging-for-Arduino.aspx

And a few other pages I found with your search function.

Perhaps what you need is a single debugging page with step by step instructions and with all the relevant info pertaining to debugging in one place.

When I say step by step, I mean step by step to the nth degree assuming that your reader knows nothing beyond the native arduino IDE and perhaps very general usage of VS.

What you seem to have is bits of information on different pages so that for me, as a new user, it is totally confusing.

And if I was creating a user manual I would be listing all the ways you can get to the project property page, not just one.

If the keyboard short cuts vary between different versions of VS then perhaps it is not really worth mentioning at all. As long as you detail right click method and the toolbar method (probably the same from VS 2010 on) then most windows users will soon figure out what the keyboard short cut is for their VS version.

With respect to these suggestions....take it or leave it. But it would sure be more likely to persuade me to part with $40, or what ever it is, if your online support was impeccably done, childishly easy to find the info I need quickly and get the debugger etc working with the minimal of fuss.


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Reply #14 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 11:22am
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I have had a worst problem with Android Studio.

The software is so friggin complicated and there is so little online support, and what there is is of poor quality, I have pretty much given up with it. 


It is just a wast of my time and not worth the constant aggravation.

In contrast MIT App Inventor is exceptionally well done across the board. I had my first android app done and dusted in less than an hour. Only problem is that the code block system is some what limiting.
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 26th, 2015 at 11:46am
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It seems to be that the properties page in the documentation had exactly the right and simple information that related to your configuration. The solution was clearly in the first part of the project properties documentation mentioned in my first response.
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