Hi,

Yes you have to start a trial, it lasts 30 days.

Do you have link to your empty output window report? I think we missed it and do not have other reports about that. Output window should be empty until you build or do something. Were you looking for the "Error List" window? I am confused.

Thanks

I  found the link you asking about:
https://www.visualmicro.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1567155426/0#0

Sorry, but I really did not exoect from you such BULLSHIT.

No, I want use vMicro and AVRS and use its programming/debug tools - I can handle it - from USB-Arduino to JTAG or simillar... I am confused only by this that vMicro often does not start properly under AVRS! and with the new necessity to start trial with this new release WITHOUT any warning before uodate!!!

No, it is NOT correct to have empty OutputWin at AVRS - (only when vMicro is not installed...) - but with vMicro - empty OutputWin means NO COMPLE or BUILD can be envoked!!!

..I only agree that if there are errors at OutputWin on opening AVRS (EVEN IF PROJECT IS OPENNED OR IS NOT!!!) then it is the good luck that vMicro will finally work this session and could be possible to compile and build the vMicro project.

I am very unhappy with your position toward this SERIOUS ISSUE of this (and previous) releases of the vMicro!

Really sorry.
Jiri

Hello,
this is what I mean as constructive way - tahnk you for this!
And please excuse me my first sentence at my last reply or may be previous replies, yes it was not proper - and even better now it seems there is will be no reason for such my despair.

So to your questions:
1) I am usibg AtmelStudio (last release update)
2) This was fairy discussed at my first thread before a months which link you have asked me, and theese days the story continues. Again, I will try shortly to sumarize what AtmelStudio does on its start, using vMicro installed (please see pictures):
if BAD:
- AS starts, OutputWin remains empty and giong into focus; start page is seen (I am using this option)
- selecting the (existing and already running and compilled project) it loads its files, all components are seen at SolutionExplorer. OutputWin stays empty.
- when you go to vMicro's Build or Build&Upload than NOTHING happens. No activity at all, no any changes at any projest windows and sure OutputWin as well.
if OK:
- AS starts, OutputWin fills some error messages (as noticed at installatin pages) and is at focus; start page is seen (I am using this option)
- selecting the (existing and already running and compilled project) it loads its files, all components are seen at SolutionExplorer. OutputWin now fills another type error messages, still seems irrelevant to the project.
- when you go to vMicro's Build or Build&Upload it works OK - it shows linking and compile status messages and project is ready for upload or run (and trace code with COM monitor activated).

Concerning Information: what you posted I have noticed during installation, which notice I think that it was not seen during previous vMicro release... I have had hopes that this new release has hopefully fixed "empty OutputWin" issue.. Sure i have nothing aganst any eroors or other messages at any Project window, if it still allows to Compile and Upload

Concerning Purchase, sure I like vMicro IDE if works, even without using "your interresting sw debugging way", even without it it is still ok to use - I mean to work at Arduino sw packages and philosophy within comfort and luxury which provides AtmelStudio+vMicro comparing to ArduinoSketch.
please note: 
" It is not very fair to say you did not buy when you were happy because the product worked and you could avoid buying." --> I wrote rather this: I was ready to buy a license, but I was just waiting for (this current) release if theese discussed troubles arisen upon opening the AtmelStudio will be fixed - which are NOT... therefore I am still doubting if buying the license is right at this moment.

And with this new release it was very bad surprise for me that now is disposable ONLY time limited trial.... I have now openned long time taking project, which I sure will not finalize untill end of trial period:( 
What I can do now? 1) To pay the license for product which still keeps its failures, or 2) To stop all my works on the vMicro project and forget all tips which I have to found at past for fruitful creating and debugging the project? ... And must solve this dilemma until remaining 2-3 weeks (2-3 weekends at my case) which time I can continue with my VMicro project?

Sorry, but this was a reason for my desperate reaction... 
Please bear at mind that I have started with vMicro before few months, when previous release was current, I discussed and documented this issue when I found it - now new release does not fix this, and you wrote something like - well, do not use vMicro if you are confused with programming tools or dislike the product... 

Jiri

Ok, keep in mind that Visual Micro is Arduino compatible. You can edit the same project in the arduino ide.

Please close the I/O tool window. If you are trying to discuss the solution explorer then that must be full visible in the pictures you provide.

You should not use a camera to take pictures of your computer screen because it misses so much. Use the "Print Screen" button on your keyboard and then open paint (start>run>pbrush.exe) and paste using your keyboard. The full and clear picture of your computer screen will appear in paint then you can save the picture.

You should ignore the output window in your report. It should be empty. The important report is this

Quote:


I am stuggling to understand the difference between OK and BAD. Are you saying that sometimes you open a project and it is BAD and sometimes you open the project and it is OK? Is it random?

The full pictures (not photo) as requested above with ide showing OK and BAD state might help me understand the difference between OK and BAD

Please also give Atmel studio full version from Help>About.

Thanks

screenshots

now this is copy of cucessfull Build content of output (part1)- may be you could trace which components could be missing or bad if AS starts to "BAD" state:
--------------------------------------------------
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i

i need full ide screenshots in a bad state. also to see the vMicro menu when in a bad state but most important is full ide in bad state

yeahhhhhhh..... AS has now started to "BAD"!
... you can see it is just closing the AS two times, was ok, now next closing AS and after few sesonds starts to "BAD"..

next ones - opening the same project as before a minute